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Ultras · US · CA

Thats No Moon Trail Races

50 Miler · 50 Mile
Ran · this year's race is done.
Race dateOctober 10, 2026
Start6:00am
When14 days ago

Who's going to Thats No Moon Trail Races?

I'm running itPlan your weeks and your aid station times I'm crewingWhen to leave, where to park, at every stop I'm pacing or cheeringAsk your runner for their Out Here link

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Distance The race
50 Mile
Climb The race
9,440 ft
Descent
not checked yet
High point The race
4,530 ft
Time limit The race
15:00:00
Aid stations
11
Started
not checked yet
Finished
not checked yet
Finish rate
not checked yet
The course

Where it goes · 11 aid stations

Very rough terrain in remote locations of Orange County's Santa Ana Mountains, run on 4X4 Jeep trails and forest roads. Runners may meet off-road traffic. Hazards include mountain lions, rattlesnakes, sharp cliffs and drop offs, and the weather can be extreme.

The race

What this one is

That's No Moon is a 50 Mile, 50K and 30K trail race in the Santa Ana Mountains of the Cleveland National Forest, starting at Black Star Canyon in Silverado, California. It runs on 4X4 Jeep trails and forest roads through remote country that is not easily reached and can have extreme weather.

The race was cancelled in 2020 and 2021, and again in 2024 because of the Airport Fire.

Getting in

Getting in Entry, lottery and what the race asks of you before race day.

Lottery
not checked yet
Lottery opens
not checked yet
Lottery draw
not checked yet
Field cap
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Registration
UltraSignup ultrasignup.com
Qualifying
not checked yet
Minimum age
not checked yet
Transfers
No ultrasignup.com
Deferrals
not checked yet
Crew access, pacers and drop bags

The rules that shape your day Anything marked "not checked yet" is a gap in what we hold, never a no from the race.

Crew allowed
Yes aravaiparunning.com
Vehicles per runner
not checked yet
Pacers
Yes, from mile 20.60 aravaiparunning.com
Muling
not checked yet
Drop bags
Yes aravaiparunning.com
Cupless
Yes ultrasignup.com
Course marking
not checked yet
Night running
not checked yet
Dogs
not checked yet
Headphones
not checked yet
Crew rules
Crew is allowed only at Silverado Aid, mile 20.6 in the 50-mile race. aravaiparunning.com
Pacer rules
Pacers should be experienced trail runners in excellent physical shape and conditioned adequately to run approximately 20+ miles over rough terrain. Pacers may begin at Silverado, mile 20.6, or may park at Silverado and hike up to the top of Motorway (3 mile hike) and pick up their runner at mile 34.5. aravaiparunning.com
Drop bag rules
Drop bags will be located at Motorway (miles 17.6 and 34.5 for the 50 mile). Please have your drop bags to the start on time and label them with your name, bib#, & race distance. Drop bags leave race start by 6AM. aravaiparunning.com
Cutoff philosophy
not checked yet
Aid stations

Every stop, and what you get there ● yes   ○ no   ? nobody has checked   – does not apply to this race

Mile Station Cutoff Crew access Bag Pacer Med To next
0.00 Start
885 ft · Signal wrong?
 ? ? ? ? ? 7.70
7.70 Beeks Place I
2,810 ft · Signal wrong?
 ? ? ? ? ? 1.80
9.50 Beeks Place II
2,810 ft · Signal wrong?
 ? ? ? ? ? 1.50
11.00 Hagador
3,300 ft · Signal wrong?
 ? ? ? ? ? 6.60
17.60 Motorway
3,700 ft · Signal wrong?
 ? ? ● ? ? 3.00
20.60 Silverado
1,900 ft · Signal wrong?
 11:40am ● ? ● ? 7.90
28.50 Four Corners
4,500 ft · Signal wrong?
 2:25pm ? ? ? ? 6.00
34.50 Motorway II
3,700 ft · Signal wrong?
 4:15pm ? ● ● ? 6.50
41.00 Hagador II
3,300 ft · Signal wrong?
 5:45pm ? ? ? ? 1.50
42.50 Beeks Place III
2,810 ft · Signal wrong?
 6:45pm ? ? ? ? 7.50
50.00 Finish
885 ft · Signal wrong?
 9:00pm ? ? ? ? ?
Same race, other lines

Other distances and other years

Other distances
50K
30K
What it looks like out there

Somebody has been out there with a camera the tables say the climb is long. these say what long feels like.

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50 Miler

  • Start mile 0.0
  • Beeks Place I mile 7.7
  • Beeks Place II mile 9.5
  • Hagador mile 11.0
  • Motorway mile 17.6
  • Silverado mile 20.6
  • Four Corners mile 28.5
  • Motorway II mile 34.5
  • Hagador II mile 41.0
  • Beeks Place III mile 42.5
  • Finish mile 50.0

50K

  • Start mile 0.0
  • Beeks Place I mile 7.7
  • Hagador mile 9.1
  • Motorway mile 15.7
  • Hagador mile 22.3
  • Beeks Place III mile 23.7
  • Finish mile 31.4

30K

  • Start mile 0.0
  • Beeks Place I mile 7.7
  • Hagador mile 9.1
  • Beeks Place II mile 10.5
  • Finish mile 18.2
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Ultras change. We will tell you when this one does.

Cutoffs move, races get postponed, lotteries open and close. We read the race's own sources and record where every fact came from. Put your email in and we will send you what changed, and where we read it.

No account, and nothing to cancel.

What happens to your email. Nothing else. I do not sell it, and I will not send you anything except this race changing. One click gets you out.

I keep this catalog because the information is scattered and hard to trust. Telling you when it moves is the same job.